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grown and say that -- groan and say that obama is demeaning in the way he deals with house speaker john boehner. hold on, says columnist rockman. we expect too much of obama he says because in the united states, we subscribe to the quote, unquote myth of the imperial presidency. other transformational democratic presidents such as fdr and lbj, rockman says, have substantial democratic majorities in both the senate and in the house to enact their landmark legislation. obama in contrast has had to work with a narrow democratic majority in the senate and with an opposition party, the republicans in control of the house for the two years since january 2011. well, what about ronald reagan? president of the united states two successful four-year terms. on the domestic front, he enacted a major economic recovery package followed by an overhaul of social security. and in his second term, reagan gained a major tax reform. on the defense front, republican president reagan again with the help of the rity presided over a major increase in the defense budget, congress presided over a major increase in the d
grown and say that -- groan and say that obama is demeaning in the way he deals with house speaker john boehner. hold on, says columnist rockman. we expect too much of obama he says because in the united states, we subscribe to the quote, unquote myth of the imperial presidency. other transformational democratic presidents such as fdr and lbj, rockman says, have substantial democratic majorities in both the senate and in the house to enact their landmark legislation. obama in contrast has had...
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and speaker boehner's spokesperson said we'll be happy to look at any proposals that pass the senate. well, what did harry reid say last weekend about voting on any bills having to do with gun legislation? they are not going to vote on anything unless they know it can pass the house. here we are, stalemate. >> exactly. >> back to you, no, over to you. neither one of them -- and this is what makes the nra's bizarre decision that they did today, the risk -- right now, harry re reid's the best friend they've got, and if they figure out a way to alienate senate democrats who have carried their water before with the stunt they pulled today with this bizarre web ad, they are going to live to regret it long term. >> one other thing about the nra, wayne lapierre said in part, barack obama, joe biden and their gun ban allies want to bully you, strip you of your second amendment freedoms. i warned you that day is coming, now it's here. then a call for greater membership, which is exactly what's happening. nia malika, the battle is now joined, not a battle either side wanted to engage in during
and speaker boehner's spokesperson said we'll be happy to look at any proposals that pass the senate. well, what did harry reid say last weekend about voting on any bills having to do with gun legislation? they are not going to vote on anything unless they know it can pass the house. here we are, stalemate. >> exactly. >> back to you, no, over to you. neither one of them -- and this is what makes the nra's bizarre decision that they did today, the risk -- right now, harry re reid's...
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he said well, the boehner rule is cuts versus reform. they're trying to sell that is not backing away from what they did before, but it kind of -- kind of is. >> it does seem like it kind of is, but going three months into the future, let's say you get the budgets passed. you have two other moments for fiscal showdown, you have the spending sequester, cuts to defense and then the spending programs. you have continuing resolution, which funds the government. if we don't come to an agreement, has a government shutdown. i had a senate aide saying it is a fact of the senate that people are just breathing a sigh of relief, we may just have a government shutdown. doesn't seem to me there is a clear path, you could have a shutdown. if that lasts for a long time as it did in the '90s, that comes at the tail end of that, shutting down the government, that would be pretty dramatic. >> they made two calculations here. they wanted to have a fight on the shutdown as related to a continuing resolution, but you don't hear any republican talking about m
he said well, the boehner rule is cuts versus reform. they're trying to sell that is not backing away from what they did before, but it kind of -- kind of is. >> it does seem like it kind of is, but going three months into the future, let's say you get the budgets passed. you have two other moments for fiscal showdown, you have the spending sequester, cuts to defense and then the spending programs. you have continuing resolution, which funds the government. if we don't come to an...
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what about john boehner? he seems to be struggling as speaker of the house grean having to pass a bill without a majority of his caucus. are there lessons that being apply to speaker of the house john boehner. >> i think obama probably would have no problem dealing with boehner. boehner has a terrible problem with his own people. the trick there is to try to figure out how you can provide to boehner some things that the carrots who are sticks can help him bring his troops aboard. that's the trick whether it's possible to do it or not, i don't know. again, if you look at the gun control thing, i don't think obama can win that in washington. i think he is realizing he may be able to win it out in the troops. getting people to change their mind. let me give you an example. the voting rights act. it was not a popular piece of legislation. there is a wonderful phone conversation that lbj calls martin luther king and he said martin, i want you to find the worst place you can in the south where negro is the term the
what about john boehner? he seems to be struggling as speaker of the house grean having to pass a bill without a majority of his caucus. are there lessons that being apply to speaker of the house john boehner. >> i think obama probably would have no problem dealing with boehner. boehner has a terrible problem with his own people. the trick there is to try to figure out how you can provide to boehner some things that the carrots who are sticks can help him bring his troops aboard. that's...
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even for boehner, that's a low point. plus, the right wing freak out over the president's inaugural address. america's changed. republicans haven't. also, hillary clinton, joe biden and what everybody is saying about them in 2016. it's a big show tonight. so stay with us. ♪ >>> have you joined the politics nation conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. believe it or not, everyone was speculating about 2016 today. will it be hillary clinton against joe biden? phil says it would be interesting to see who obama endorsed? it certainly would. the letter says obama runs the people in the country like our president. casey says it's time for a woman to run the show. sorry, joe, i'm for hillary. we've got more on the possible sweet 16 match-upcoming up later in the show. but, first, we want to hear your opinion. please head over to facebook and search politics nation and like us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male
even for boehner, that's a low point. plus, the right wing freak out over the president's inaugural address. america's changed. republicans haven't. also, hillary clinton, joe biden and what everybody is saying about them in 2016. it's a big show tonight. so stay with us. ♪ >>> have you joined the politics nation conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. believe it or not, everyone was speculating about 2016 today. will it be hillary clinton against joe biden? phil says it...
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boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he did it in a controversial election, first term and second term. first term he reached across the aisle and got tax cuts for everyone even though the united states senate switched majority control from republicans to democrats in may of his first year in office. then he worked across the aisle to get education reform done. it can happen, but it takes a president who is willing to be presidential and really lead rather than just demand. >> eric: do you think he can take a page from george w. bush. what did you advise the president at that time and what lessons from that experience that president obama c
boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he did it in a controversial election, first term and second term....
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john boehner's spokesman put out a statement saying the house will look at those recommendations and if the senate pass as bill they will look at that too but no commitment move to any legislation in the house of representatives. so, larry, it looks like a lot of these proposals will not happen but there were more than 20 elements of what he proposed today, the president that were, in fact, executive actions that he could sign today and enforce through the executive branch of the government and that he did. so the rest of the proposals will be legislative and we'll have to see how they fare. >> as always, thanks eamon javers. the national rifle association is pushing back with a tough new ad campaign labelling the president an elitist hypocrite for allowing his own kids to have their protection. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? mr. obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. but, he's just another elitist hypocrite when i
john boehner's spokesman put out a statement saying the house will look at those recommendations and if the senate pass as bill they will look at that too but no commitment move to any legislation in the house of representatives. so, larry, it looks like a lot of these proposals will not happen but there were more than 20 elements of what he proposed today, the president that were, in fact, executive actions that he could sign today and enforce through the executive branch of the government and...
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this is not something you hear from congressional leaders like speaker boehner or senate leader mitch mcconnell. this is something that's coming very much from the right. but it does underscore the problem that president obama is going to have and that is that no matter what kind of ground swell he puts forward from the grass roots, it's going to be very difficult to convince house that's controlled by republicans that they need to move on this. what he would need to do is he needs to move those moderate republicans and we saw this happening with the sandy aid where he didn't put the sandy relief bill on the floor, moderate republicans like peter king from new york, other atlanta -- the speaker brought that up very quickly without the support of the entire caucus. he broke what we call here in washington the hastert rule, we need a majority of the majority to bring something forward. he would need to do something with guns, and without moderate republicans calling on the speaker to bring something to the floor, it's going to be very difficult for the speaker in leadership to have the
this is not something you hear from congressional leaders like speaker boehner or senate leader mitch mcconnell. this is something that's coming very much from the right. but it does underscore the problem that president obama is going to have and that is that no matter what kind of ground swell he puts forward from the grass roots, it's going to be very difficult to convince house that's controlled by republicans that they need to move on this. what he would need to do is he needs to move...
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will pass the house where but if there was a true a real up and down vote the problem is that john boehner doesn't even have a real or how do you want the debt certainly. that doesn't look to the floor how much money the senate democrats want to spend on climate change we don't know because they haven't had it but i did it for you are you going to even tell us how much they want guys want to see they were being raised build a liberal you dollars the oil they want to we already know but here's here's this you know since we're asking rhetorical questions which president was it who put cap and trade on the table to do away with sulfur dioxide emissions to radically reduce sulfur dioxide emissions and it worked and sulfur dioxide went down which president was that brought that forward it was george herbert walker bush this is a republic cap and trade was just just like obamacare was a heritage foundation proposal and it worked why can't we do that with carbon emissions and conservatives make mistakes too and so for small slice the economy but damn if progress is want to control carbon economy
will pass the house where but if there was a true a real up and down vote the problem is that john boehner doesn't even have a real or how do you want the debt certainly. that doesn't look to the floor how much money the senate democrats want to spend on climate change we don't know because they haven't had it but i did it for you are you going to even tell us how much they want guys want to see they were being raised build a liberal you dollars the oil they want to we already know but here's...
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with senator mitch mcconnell, house republican leader representative john boehner, and secretary for the minority, david chapa. ♪ >> has deputy sergeant at arms, senator harry reid, house majority leader. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, the president elect of the united states, joseph r aydin junior -- r. biden junior. [crowd chanting "obama!"] >> ladies and gentlemen, accompanying the president- elect, the committee for inaugural ceremonies, the senate sergeant at arms, gainer, wilson living good, chairman of the joint congressional committee on inaugural sermon -- the ramones, diane feinstein. house majority leader, house republican leader, john boehner. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president-elect of the united states, barack h. obama. [applause] [cheers and applause] ♪ [cheers and applause] [chanting "obama!"] >> ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the congressional committee on inaugural ceremonies, the honorable diane feinstein. [cheers and applause] >> mr. president and vice president, mr. president elect and vice pre
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you know, you have john boehner speaker of the house saying it's the senate's job and joe scarborough talks about how the nra being on the fringe now and the republicans are up against it in terms of an identity in their party. is this sort of the president using leverage to make the republicans look bad or what's the motivation? >> no. i think you take the president at his word. it was his worse day in office. it was a gut wrenching moment for the entire country. he believes this is the time to push these additional gun measures. dmoes politics of this are tough. listen 30 years your don't touch gun control. that is sort of, a bedrock principle of politics among democrats and republicans. what he's trying to do is change 20 years of politics. it doesn't happen in two months. it might be the beginning of a debate that over time might change the trajectory of gun politics. doubtful. but a lot of conservative democrats in the last 20 years that weighed in on guns have paid a political consequence for that partly because of the nra and partly because of other gun groups and a lot of peop
you know, you have john boehner speaker of the house saying it's the senate's job and joe scarborough talks about how the nra being on the fringe now and the republicans are up against it in terms of an identity in their party. is this sort of the president using leverage to make the republicans look bad or what's the motivation? >> no. i think you take the president at his word. it was his worse day in office. it was a gut wrenching moment for the entire country. he believes this is the...
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. >> here's a reaction from speaker boehner's office. house committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations and if the senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that. what's your response to that? is that passing the buck? >> there's plenty of passing the buck that goes on. there is an effort to create pressure in the house. and i believe we can force a vote on the house floor, if necessary. and, again, the american people will be a critical part of that effort. >> universal background checks. overwhelming support for that. is that a good start for congress in your opinion? >> it is probably the best thing we can do at this particular point in time. when 40% of the guns that are purchased in this country are not subject to a background check, it absolutely floors the american people. even members of the nra, when they were polled recently, were under the impression that everyone has a criminal background check. so there are many thousands upon thousands of people in this country who illegally have guns because there
. >> here's a reaction from speaker boehner's office. house committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations and if the senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that. what's your response to that? is that passing the buck? >> there's plenty of passing the buck that goes on. there is an effort to create pressure in the house. and i believe we can force a vote on the house floor, if necessary. and, again, the american people will be a critical part of that effort....
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will you get democratic votes on this when boehner brings this up? >> it will depend on what it looks like. this is really gimmicky, gimmicking garbage at the end of the day. the responsible thing to do is to pass a debt ceiling increase because we have to pay our bills. really leaving this uncertainty hanging over our already fragile recovery is irresponsible. and to suggest that we're not going to pay our bills or tie the debt that we have to pay to anything that the republicans want to extract out of president obama is irresponsible. >> yeah. the republican that i look to right now is john cornyn. what a reversal. this guy writes an op-ed in the hometown newspaper in houston and turns around and tells the editorial board something totally different. what does that say about their leadership? >> it says they are all over the map. it says they are basically a rudderless ship and it says that they really don't get what is at stake for us economically. president obama clearly does. we've had 34 straight months of job growth, begun to get this economy
will you get democratic votes on this when boehner brings this up? >> it will depend on what it looks like. this is really gimmicky, gimmicking garbage at the end of the day. the responsible thing to do is to pass a debt ceiling increase because we have to pay our bills. really leaving this uncertainty hanging over our already fragile recovery is irresponsible. and to suggest that we're not going to pay our bills or tie the debt that we have to pay to anything that the republicans want to...
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plan, this is a gamble for house speaker john boehner. there are members of the republican caucus in the house who don't want to raise the debt ceiling at all and don't even think a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a ploy to put the political pressure on the senate democrats to pass a budget, they may not even vote for this. so he has his work cut out for him to make sure that his caucus or at least the vast majority of it is on board for this. and for the senate democrats, if this three-month extension passes, it does move the spotlight, it does put the heat on them and they haven't passed a budget in years, and you know, it goes to the senate and it goes to senate majority leader harry reid and we'll see what they do. but first, john boehner has to get his folks on board in the house. >> andy, carrie, good to see both of you. thanks. >> thank you. >>> boy, it was a stunning way to cap off the inaugural festivities. the president and first lady sharing a dance at the inaugural ball of course, to "let's stay together" performe
plan, this is a gamble for house speaker john boehner. there are members of the republican caucus in the house who don't want to raise the debt ceiling at all and don't even think a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a ploy to put the political pressure on the senate democrats to pass a budget, they may not even vote for this. so he has his work cut out for him to make sure that his caucus or at least the vast majority of it is on board for this. and for the senate democrats, if this...
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president obama has invited john boehner to six state dinners, boehner declined all six times, he did accept president george bush's to a state dinner for the meaningless queen elizabeth. president obama invited senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to two state dinners, and to celebrate the basketball team from his home state. mcconnell declined all those invitations. and president obama invited all newly elected members of congress to the white house for a reputation. less than half of the freshmen republicans attended. joining me now, howard fineman, in my experience, this socializing thing is the most overrated legislative strategy imaginable. i have never seen it matter in any way at all. if booze could do this it would have fixed a lot of things a lot easier a long time ago. >> yes, of course, and booze consumption in d.c. exceeds that in other years of the country, with the possible exception of las vegas. there was a time, a day and place when i think personal relationships did matter more. and i think when you were on the hill, when i was covering you on the hill, it was kin
president obama has invited john boehner to six state dinners, boehner declined all six times, he did accept president george bush's to a state dinner for the meaningless queen elizabeth. president obama invited senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to two state dinners, and to celebrate the basketball team from his home state. mcconnell declined all those invitations. and president obama invited all newly elected members of congress to the white house for a reputation. less than half of the...
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i hope speaker boehner will allow some of these measures to come to the floor. in the past he has said he would only bring things to the floor that had a majority of his majority. but just recently, we did see speaker boehner bring the fiscal cliff measure to the floor that didn't have the joerts of his republican support. he also brought the sandy relief aid bill to the floor that didn't have the majority of the republicans, but it did have bipartisan majority support, both on the fiscal cliff issue and the sandy issue. so if the speaker brings some of these gun measures to the president, including the background checks, perhaps even the issue of dealing with these high capacity magazines that hold 30 to 100 rounds of ammunition in them are tools of war and have no more business than they have on midwestern streets. >> we get to invite someone to the state of the union, to invite a victim of gun violence. do you think it is these kinds of personal stories and personal connections that will make a difference ultimately? >> i absolutely think the personal connect
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bipartisan outreach will be so successful that even john boehner will consider becoming a democrat. after all, we have a lot in common. he is a person of color. although not a color that appears in the natural world. leaders of the republican party, they call the passage of this bill armageddon. end of freedom as we know it. so after i sign the bill, i looked around to see if there were any asteroids falling or sudden cracks opening up in the earth. turned out it was a nice day. they said we needed to triple the border patrol. well, now they're going to say we need to quadruple the border patrol or they'll want a higher fence. maybe they will need a moat. maybe they want alligators in the moat. lots of ups, lots of downs, except for my approval ratings which have just gone down. but that's politics. it doesn't bother me. besides, i happen to know that my approval ratings are still very high in the country of my birth. he seems all-american, but if you heard his real middle name, tim hosni pawlenty, what a shame. governor romney has said that he hoped a similar version of this plan f
bipartisan outreach will be so successful that even john boehner will consider becoming a democrat. after all, we have a lot in common. he is a person of color. although not a color that appears in the natural world. leaders of the republican party, they call the passage of this bill armageddon. end of freedom as we know it. so after i sign the bill, i looked around to see if there were any asteroids falling or sudden cracks opening up in the earth. turned out it was a nice day. they said we...
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the relief package was passed by the senate even though house speaker john boehner hadn't brought it up for a vote. in fact, the senate passage helped to put pressure on the house. sandy relief passed in the house with a minority of republican votes and almost every democrat. speaker boehner would not have brought the bill to the floor if it hadn't already been passed in the senate. there was similar pressure with the fiscal cliff deal. it passed in the senate first. then boehner was forced to bring it to the floor for a vote and the house, even though only a minority of republicans supported it. today senator majority leader harry reid seemed to clarify his position somewhat. in a statement he said, "i am committed to ensuring the senate will consider legislation that addresses gun violence and other aspects of violence in our society early this year. all options should be on the table." well, that sounds a little bit better. but there should be no hedging on this issue whatsoever. especially from democrats. because if they side with the president of the united states think about wh
the relief package was passed by the senate even though house speaker john boehner hadn't brought it up for a vote. in fact, the senate passage helped to put pressure on the house. sandy relief passed in the house with a minority of republican votes and almost every democrat. speaker boehner would not have brought the bill to the floor if it hadn't already been passed in the senate. there was similar pressure with the fiscal cliff deal. it passed in the senate first. then boehner was forced to...
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boehner keeps refusing invitations to multiple state dinners. there seems to be a problem when members of the republican caucus don't want to be seen to be having fun with the president or having dinner with the president because their constituency might not like it. >> right. i think there's something to that. i go back, that's where -- so he'll get this outside advice from friends outside the white house who say, do it informally, do more informal stuff. the formal stuff gets covered -- >> like breakfast or screening of "lincoln," casually sitting back and watching a movie. >> i got the same notes from the white house as well overnight on this topic. i know this bothers them. this bothers the president. he thinks it's unfair criticism. i'm telling you how it percolates. >> it percolates sometimes when people want to spread rumors that aren't true and really don't want to take responsibility for being intolerable and difficult to be around. quite frankly, if you're john boehner and you go to state dinners that president bush hosts and you don't
boehner keeps refusing invitations to multiple state dinners. there seems to be a problem when members of the republican caucus don't want to be seen to be having fun with the president or having dinner with the president because their constituency might not like it. >> right. i think there's something to that. i go back, that's where -- so he'll get this outside advice from friends outside the white house who say, do it informally, do more informal stuff. the formal stuff gets covered --...
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boehner versus obama, boehner versus obama. the speaker is always going to be at a lesser hand against the president for various reasons, and what he's basically said is, okay, let's let the senate do its thing and we'll consider it. they've become the senate in the usual case of they are the cooling saucer for legislation. everything is going to go to them as a final stage. i think that's tactically smart. >> in terms of long-term implications for the republican party, everybody's been saying after the election, maybe they can get it together, circle the wagons, come up with a new position, new policies. >> this gives them more time to work on this. i don't have any ideas for them on that, i got to tell you. good luck. >> luke, how much -- i mean, we played that sound from rush limbaugh, rush limbaugh is the mayor of planet crazy, but at the same time, he does speak for -- you know this, house caucus, there are people, yesterday mo brooks plans to oppose this, he has a serious problem on his hands. to what degree are they goin
boehner versus obama, boehner versus obama. the speaker is always going to be at a lesser hand against the president for various reasons, and what he's basically said is, okay, let's let the senate do its thing and we'll consider it. they've become the senate in the usual case of they are the cooling saucer for legislation. everything is going to go to them as a final stage. i think that's tactically smart. >> in terms of long-term implications for the republican party, everybody's been...
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had more democratic votes than republicans, and a lot of sensitive, you know, that happens to john boehner too many times his speakership could be in trouble. so my guess is it will come from the senate, but you've got zoe meeting quietly with a republican from florida talking about details they can bring back to their colleagues. i think actually this is one of these issues where people in both houses are going to want to take credit for being outfront on this issue. i think you're going to see a spate of bills coming forward. >> scott, this is a hot issue. lots of legislators as you mentioned are jumping on the bandwag bandwagon. the lawmakers you talked to in washington, how hopeful are they there will be a bipartisan deal reached this time around? immigration has been attempted before and it's failed. >> i think there is a lot of hope. as i said, the stars kind of are aligning on this, not only do you have republicans willing to come to the table and talk seriously about a major reform of immigration law, you've also got traditionally republican-leaning groups like agriculture. i talke
had more democratic votes than republicans, and a lot of sensitive, you know, that happens to john boehner too many times his speakership could be in trouble. so my guess is it will come from the senate, but you've got zoe meeting quietly with a republican from florida talking about details they can bring back to their colleagues. i think actually this is one of these issues where people in both houses are going to want to take credit for being outfront on this issue. i think you're going to...
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boehner attached a bublg et to this. >> there are no specific cuts. where in medicare or the pentagon are they going to cut? they have to specify that before you can have a serious conversation. i don't think members of congress should be playing with fiscal fire which is what we are doing when we use a tactic as a threat to plunge america into defought. i believe that republicans and democrats should denounce using that as a threat. your previous guests gave goodness about the economy. the biggest threat about the economy is congressional dysfunction. >> do you have a response to peter walsh. >> lord knows if we could have a balance absed budget. but you made this deal yeah, we are going to extend the debt ceiling. now, it gets attached to a balanced budget. >> two points, in regard to congressman welch. when you have liberal s ip the house and senate, that is their plan to spend more money. i know you are talking about our budget larry, but we have to step back. there is going to be no budget that takes place unless the senate passes a budget. but t
boehner attached a bublg et to this. >> there are no specific cuts. where in medicare or the pentagon are they going to cut? they have to specify that before you can have a serious conversation. i don't think members of congress should be playing with fiscal fire which is what we are doing when we use a tactic as a threat to plunge america into defought. i believe that republicans and democrats should denounce using that as a threat. your previous guests gave goodness about the economy....
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the gauntlet on the issues but republican leaders, at least today, are saying warm things and speaker boehner at traditional lunch gave a toast which is what they will do on a day like this, saying we are ready to work with you, congratulations. tomorrow and the day after, republicans will be ready to start pushing back on the issues. the battle is joined in pomp and circumstance today. the president made clear in that address in the days ahead he will try to take it to the republicans. the question will be, how they will push back. >>neil: we will take that up with the majority head of the house of representatives shortly and ahead of that larry sabato. larry, you are an expert on all things presidential history and were with me four years ago when it was a lot cold it and there were almost two million, and we are told 500,000 or 700,000 this go round. what do you make just of this crowd versus last crowd, historic last time, business as usual this time? >> inaugurals for a second temperature are flat. that's because we already know the president. we know the president's staff. we know the p
the gauntlet on the issues but republican leaders, at least today, are saying warm things and speaker boehner at traditional lunch gave a toast which is what they will do on a day like this, saying we are ready to work with you, congratulations. tomorrow and the day after, republicans will be ready to start pushing back on the issues. the battle is joined in pomp and circumstance today. the president made clear in that address in the days ahead he will try to take it to the republicans. the...
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. >> if john boehner and mitch mcconnell think they can come up with a plan that somehow meets their criteria they set, they are free on go ahead and try. >> republicans still believe the president will blink and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn yesterday. >> i think there is a way to avoid default. if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's look at that. >> yesterday the president sounded almost resign to the idea a government shutdown is probably coming up. >> if the republicans in congress made a decision they want to shouldn't down the government in order to get their way, then they have the -- votes at least in the house of representatives probably to do that. i think that would be a mistake. and it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. >> once again, what the white house was trying to signal on debt limit
. >> if john boehner and mitch mcconnell think they can come up with a plan that somehow meets their criteria they set, they are free on go ahead and try. >> republicans still believe the president will blink and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn...
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you know, boehner broke the hastert rule once because of larger necessity, and i don't think that doing that makes it any less likely is he going to do that. i really do think these guys as long as they get to take the vote that they want don't really necessarily -- this doesn't stand for all of them, but as a group they don't necessarily care. >> jonathan makes the point that on the sandy relief bill they did the same thing, which was register opposition, pass it with democratic help. i feel like that is sort of under mining short-changes thinking republicans, which is to say can you do this for two years? basically register opposition and then let democrats sort of push the legislation through and not have anybody clued into -- that's what you're doing? >> they really care about this. they're not making it up or fake it. they really, really think that it would be better not to raise the debt ceiling, and so what you do is let the democrats on it. we take our republicans and save seats. on things where the leadership is in tune with the base, that's going to be a harder push, because t
you know, boehner broke the hastert rule once because of larger necessity, and i don't think that doing that makes it any less likely is he going to do that. i really do think these guys as long as they get to take the vote that they want don't really necessarily -- this doesn't stand for all of them, but as a group they don't necessarily care. >> jonathan makes the point that on the sandy relief bill they did the same thing, which was register opposition, pass it with democratic help. i...
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boehner has also indicated he's not going to deal with the president one-on-one. they're going to go through the regular order. the senate is going to have to do something, the house is going to have to do something. they're going to meet in conference and send it to the presidency. i think the president's legacy to go big, to get a grand bargain, to have long-term economic growth but also to have a legacy of fiscal sustainability could be his major legacy piece. and i think even though he wants to do guns, even though he wants to do immigration -- >> i agree with you. and it should be a priority. if america is not in good financial health, then the problems are huge for the people of america. but here's the problem. ronald reagan and bill clinton both enjoyed very prosperous second terms because the economy rebounded strongly. i'm saying economically. they saw the economy of the country getting much, much stronger in their second terms and that always gives you a chance to do other things. there's not much sign of real recovery in america's economy now. and if it
boehner has also indicated he's not going to deal with the president one-on-one. they're going to go through the regular order. the senate is going to have to do something, the house is going to have to do something. they're going to meet in conference and send it to the presidency. i think the president's legacy to go big, to get a grand bargain, to have long-term economic growth but also to have a legacy of fiscal sustainability could be his major legacy piece. and i think even though he...